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JH Jan 2020 jotter.
JH Jan 2020 jotter.


1GHz on the plates and magnet.
1GHz maximum on the plates and magnet


1E10 atoms/s
1E10 atoms/s


1E20 per minibot.
1E20 per minibot


1E10 seconds.
1E10 seconds.
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Want 1 minibot per second?
Want 1 minibot per second?


The factory unit takes clean feedstock.
The factory unit takes clean feedstock


For factory and refiner:
For factory and refiner:


10 atomic distances minimum clearance.
10 atomic distances minimum clearance


1E-9m separation.
1E-9m separation


1E9 atoms per meter per head.
1E9 atoms per meter per head


stream speed, 10m/s
stream speed, 10m/s


1E10 atoms/second per head.
1E10 atoms/second per head


One minibot per hour from the fab unit would be 3.6E13 atoms per minibot. That 's a major step down from the initial idea but it means the deposition refining and manufacture is practical. Any larger and it's not. We can try increasing the atoms/s somehow, but I think the ballpark estimate is fair. So, what can we make with 3.6E13 atoms? It has to make the fab unit itself, to start with. Unless we can have an exponential production of fab units then nothing else will be scaled.
One minibot per hour from the fab unit would be 3.6E13 atoms per minibot. That 's a major step down from the initial idea but it means the deposition refining and manufacture is practical. Any larger and it's not. We can try increasing the atoms/s somehow, but I think the ballpark estimate is fair. So, what can we make with 3.6E13 atoms? It has to make the fab unit itself, to start with. Unless we can have an exponential production of fab units then nothing else will be scaled.
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Small subset of isotopes will be mixing elements. Which? Is this problematic.
Small subset of isotopes will be mixing elements. Which? Is this problematic.


I've started a table of bucket sizes with 200 buckets, one for each isotope group. There are no elements with isotope mass clashes. Some buckets will be reject mixes but there's no element which hasn't a bucket to itself unless you count Tritium/Helium3 as necessary elements.
I've started a table of bucket sizes with 200 buckets, one for each isotope group. There are elements with isotope mass clashes. Some buckets will be reject mixes but there's no element which hasn't a bucket to itself unless you count Tritium/Helium3 as necessary elements. My table shows all elements have at least one isotope with a unique mass number. The forum has [https://mirrorswarm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5&p=7#p7 a post with the isotope table].


2E-8m separation
2E-8m separation
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beam length to be determined
beam length to be determined


process: load, clip, beam, unclip, each clip to store, no need to unload.
process: load, clip, beam, unclip, each clip to store, no need to unload


We need to gather more than makes a clip or a fab during its lifetime.
We need to gather more than makes a clip or a fab during its lifetime


I've no idea how to hold the charged plasma or, more likely, to make it on the fly before it enters the beam. Where does that localized heat come from?
I've no idea how to hold the charged plasma or, more likely, to make it on the fly before it enters the beam. Where does that localized heat come from?
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"mass-to-charge ratio, which is represented mathematically as m/z (or m/e). For example, if an ion has a mass of 18 units and a charge of 1+, its m/z value is 18." - [https://science.howstuffworks.com/mass-spectrometry3.htm]
"mass-to-charge ratio, which is represented mathematically as m/z (or m/e). For example, if an ion has a mass of 18 units and a charge of 1+, its m/z value is 18." - [https://science.howstuffworks.com/mass-spectrometry3.htm]
QBR=mv
*v=10m/s
*Hydrogen m=1.67E-27kg
*Q=1.6E-19C
*R=1E-6m
*B=(unknown)T
*m/Q=1.04E-8kg/C
gives a sense of the electric field needed on that scale.

Latest revision as of 00:22, 13 January 2020

JH Jan 2020 jotter.

1GHz maximum on the plates and magnet

1E10 atoms/s

1E20 per minibot

1E10 seconds.

Want 1 minibot per second?

The factory unit takes clean feedstock

For factory and refiner:

10 atomic distances minimum clearance

1E-9m separation

1E9 atoms per meter per head

stream speed, 10m/s

1E10 atoms/second per head

One minibot per hour from the fab unit would be 3.6E13 atoms per minibot. That 's a major step down from the initial idea but it means the deposition refining and manufacture is practical. Any larger and it's not. We can try increasing the atoms/s somehow, but I think the ballpark estimate is fair. So, what can we make with 3.6E13 atoms? It has to make the fab unit itself, to start with. Unless we can have an exponential production of fab units then nothing else will be scaled.

Small subset of isotopes will be mixing elements. Which? Is this problematic.

I've started a table of bucket sizes with 200 buckets, one for each isotope group. There are elements with isotope mass clashes. Some buckets will be reject mixes but there's no element which hasn't a bucket to itself unless you count Tritium/Helium3 as necessary elements. My table shows all elements have at least one isotope with a unique mass number. The forum has a post with the isotope table.

2E-8m separation

4E-6m collector

by 2E-6m high

beam length to be determined

process: load, clip, beam, unclip, each clip to store, no need to unload

We need to gather more than makes a clip or a fab during its lifetime

I've no idea how to hold the charged plasma or, more likely, to make it on the fly before it enters the beam. Where does that localized heat come from?

Coordinate system. I don't care where it is, I want to know how many north and east I am wrt the rest of the units.

"mass-to-charge ratio, which is represented mathematically as m/z (or m/e). For example, if an ion has a mass of 18 units and a charge of 1+, its m/z value is 18." - [1]

QBR=mv

  • v=10m/s
  • Hydrogen m=1.67E-27kg
  • Q=1.6E-19C
  • R=1E-6m
  • B=(unknown)T
  • m/Q=1.04E-8kg/C

gives a sense of the electric field needed on that scale.